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Jason Collins: Winsome, Public Testimony For Sexual Faithfulness to Christ

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This is one of the best examples I’ve heard by a Christian making a public testimony for God’s truth about sexual holiness and faithfulness. ESPN Senior Writer, Chris Broussard, was questioned on New York’s POWER 105: “The Breakfast Club” radio show about his take on Jason Collins’ “coming out,” and here is his response. It’s winsome, it’s gentle, it’s persuasive, and it’s true. Notice in particular that Broussard does not shy away from making biblical arguments from the text of Scripture. This is exactly right. The Bible is public truth, and it should be used in public arguments as we have opportunity. Take a listen.

-D

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Written by Michael Duenes

May 20, 2013 at 6:54 pm

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  1. So, I don’t necessarily disagree with his public use of the bible. Afterall, the bible consitutes public knowledge of a sort. However, I would like to point out that Chris Broussard does make some crucial errors in one of his responses:
    “Interviewer: So what about those that say “Okay, I was born gay. So how can you say that I’m a born sinner. I’m not asking to be sinful, I’m born this way. This is naturally who I am.” (Isn’t) that true?
    Chris: Well, I mean first of all my personal belief is that you aren’t born that way. I think (there’s) scientific studies on both sides, it’s really inconclusive. But regardless we’re all born in sin I mean I was born attracted to women. Though I’m married seventeen years, never cheated on my wife, but I’ve been tempted. You know what I’m saying. (talk continues)”
    First of all, Chris begins with the statement “my personal belief.” From the get go, he predicates whatever follows to be his personal belief or opinion, which helps to disqualify his argument. Even granting that he’s trying to express more then a mere opinion, he states “I think (there’s) scientific studies on both sides, it’s really inconclusive.” On both sides of what? On the debate as to whether homosexuality is a choice or if it’s nature? If Chris were actually familiar with scientific literature on the matter, he’d know that hormone production, genetic factors, early childhood development, even birth order are routinely considered as possible factors that contribute to sexual orientation. However, choice as a factor is not really part of the current debate. This part of his “argument” needs to be clarified.
    Lastly, though he appeals to science in a vague manner, he doesn’t treat it as having the same truth or knowledge producing value as the bible. This is demonstrated by how he qualifies his statements about science with “my personal belief,” while never qualifying his statemntns about the bible or christianity as such. Rather he proclaims those beliefs as if he pressuposes them to be certainly true, without exception. This is indicative of an honest dogmatist, not an honest truth seeker. How can one argue for public truth without first honestly evaluating all truth claims, even those one holds close to the heart?

    matt

    May 20, 2013 at 11:31 pm

    • Matt – Thanks for your thoughtful critique. On a radio show, I’m not sure how deep one can delve into scientific studies. I think there is an inconclusive aspect of studies pertaining to homosexuality, as there is in all scientific studies. Scientific theories all must have a tentative nature to them because they are constantly being either disproved or improved upon.

      Second, I’m not quite understanding the manner in which you are using the word “dogmatist.” You seem to be using it in a pejorative manner. While I think that the things revealed in nature, and discovered by scientific inquiry, are as “true” – when they are true – as things in the Bible, I would want to start with the Bible as the ground or basis of all knowledge. I too presuppose it to be true. But this is no vice, for ALL people presuppose certain things to be true, and they presuppose them to be true without argument. That is, we all have first order beliefs that we hold, by which we ground all of our other beliefs. We are all living by faith. Thus, in one sense, we are all dogmatists. You say that we must “evaluate all truth claims,” but I would interested to know by which standards or sources of authority you will evaluate them, and why one should accept those authorities as true.

      -D

      russell and duenes

      May 21, 2013 at 2:54 pm

  2. As usual, I will comment that you know no more about what God wants than I do, and I know nothing on the topic. We are alone in a cold indifferent universe. We might as well as be as kind as we can to each other in the brief time we have on this planet and not make each other more miserable than we need to with silly condemnations (no matter how kindly twisted) about loving relationships.

    modestypress

    May 21, 2013 at 6:45 am

    • As usual, Modesty, I will comment that your point is self-refuting. You claim to know that I know nothing about what God wants, but you’ve given me no standard or authority – outside of the ruminations of your own mind -by which you can know this. Indeed, on your view of the world, there is no such thing as knowledge, only molecules bouncing off each other. Knowledge? What’s that? There is no God, therefore, there is no thought. Just matter in motion, baby!

      Jesus said that he came so that we might know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom He has sent. God says that “what may be known about God is plain to them (and to you), because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.” So, my friend, you are without excuse in your suppression of the truth about God. His reality is evident all around you. So not only do I know the reality of God, you do too.

      -D

      russell and duenes

      May 21, 2013 at 2:56 pm

  3. Same sex attraction and opposite sex attraction to someone other than your wife isn’t comparable at all whatsoever. It’s almost offensive to compare the two. At least with opposite sex attraction, you can get married and be with someone. You can have sex all you want. It really doesn’t matter. With same sex attraction, you are lonely your whole life. You can’t even be in ONE romantic relationship let alone
    marriage. You can never fall in love. If you “mess up” even once homosexually you are condemned, while the married couple down the street can literally have all the fun they want. With same sex attraction, you are alone. God gave us the desire for companionship. He was the one who created it. We weren’t designed for celibacy. Many Christians miss the fact that marriage is more a cultural institution than a religious one. When you say, ” I got married. ” the first think that pops into the minds of most individuals concerns love, lifelong commitment, happiness, and children. There is a religious factor, but I would have to say that even many Christians think marriage as a societal expectation of devoted love.

    Manny

    May 21, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    • Manny, I truly wish that some response to your comments would receive an open hearing, but I suspect not. You have made many broad, sweeping, generalized statements. Whether they are grounded in fact seems to matter little.

      -D

      russell and duenes

      May 21, 2013 at 4:16 pm


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